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We all know the stories, legends and anecdotes. The enigmatic Manuel Torre, the Majareta <\/em>(crazy guy), his coining of the term \u201cson\u00edos negros\u201d, black sounds, duende.<\/em> The obsessions\u2026 greyhounds, fighting cocks, gold watches. As a youngster starting out in flamenco, I was constantly reminded that Torre was the greatest flamenco singer of all time. Although the few recordings he left seemed unremarkable, witnesses spoke of his communicative power, the acabarreuniones <\/em>they called him, a sort of party pooper since no one was brave enough to sing after the great Manuel Soto Loreto had raised the collective goose-bumps.  He died in abject poverty after earning and spending fortunes, leaving behind seven children.<\/p>\n

To commemorate the centennial in 1978 of Torre\u2019s birth, the newspaper Nueva Andaluc\u00eda published the following interview, originally in Spanish, with two of his daughters, Amparo and Mar\u00eda.<\/p>\n

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What was Manuel like?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I was around 8 years old [Mar\u00eda speaking], and Amparo 5 when our father died.  I remember he would go to a corner of the coal shop and sit me on his knee, always humming a song.<\/p>\n

Is it true he had many obsessions?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The greyhounds were his great obsession, and he wouldn\u2019t allow anyone to touch them.  I remember the last two he had, And\u00fajar and Amapola, that were the best he ever had, and to which he gave very special pampering.  Many times he would sit us on his knees so we wouldn\u2019t touch them or play with them.<\/p>\n

We remember another habit he had when somebody came looking for him. We would call him, \u201cManuel\u2026there\u2019s a se\u00f1orito<\/em> looking for you!\u201d  And the first thing he would say was, \u201cWho is with him? What kind of wine is he drinking? What kind of cigarette does he smoke? What is he wearing?\u201d  And based on what we told him, he knew beforehand who was waiting for him.  If the person was to his liking, he would go. If not, he would stay in the little yard with his cats and roosters, or stay sitting in his chair.<\/p>\n

Did Manuel make much money?<\/strong><\/p>\n

At that time he was making a lot of money, but since he was a very strange man, he spent everything; he could have earned a lot more, but he wouldn\u2019t sing until his money was gone, or if he very much enjoyed the friends he was with at the moment.<\/p>\n

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In the history of flamenco, Manuel Torre has been one of the men with the most diverse collection of anecdotes.  Do you know any about him?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The one anecdote we remember most about him took place when we were with him on the Calle de la Feria in Seville, and he was carrying our sister Gabriela, the youngest one, in his arms.  Since she wouldn\u2019t stop crying, he started to sing a lullaby that stopped the traffic of horse-drawn carts and the few motorized cars there were, the whole street bursting into an ovation.  They say when he rented a flat on Torrej\u00f3n street, at the time of his fame, a similar thing happened every night, since the neighbor ladies would wait several hours for his return so that he could sing a lullaby for their babies, causing a big disturbance in the neighborhood.<\/p>\n

How did Manuel die?<\/strong><\/p>\n

He died sitting in his chair.  At that time we girls were staying at the Red Cross on Capuchinos, but only in the morning, because he always wanted us to sleep under the same roof.  One day, when we arrived, we heard some yelling and running and somebody\u2019s voice telling us \u201cFather is dead!\u201d  We were not allowed to see him.  Later on, his brother Pepe came and took us in, until he could no longer support both his own children and us, and he took us, walking, to our mother in Utrera.<\/p>\n

Did anybody worry about your fate after your father\u2019s death?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, a man who had a big heart and who organized a gigantic festival where much money was collected for our upkeep during the time we were with our uncle.  That man was Pepe Marchena.  Aside from him, nobody remembered Manuel Torre, as much as they said they loved him.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s strange that nobody took an interest in his remains.  Is there any explanation?<\/strong><\/p>\n

None!  We were too young to know about that.  The one who should have done it was his brother, he\u2019s the one who picked us up, although we don\u2019t know why he didn\u2019t do it. <\/p>\n

Do you think Manuel Torre has had someone to continue his cante?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The only one to continue our father\u2019s cante was his son, Tom\u00e1s Torre, although the only ones who can sing his cante are Antonio Mairena and Curro Mairena who have a little of his \u201cecho\u201d.  The rest have only made false imitations without any kind of stature.<\/p>\n

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I don\u2019t know, but I believe the gypsies \u2013 mind you, I speak from a different point of view, that of the non-gypsy, payo, gach\u00f3, or whatever you want to call them \u2013 are too radical, and you go from one extreme to the other with nothing in between. You tell me how thankful you are to Antonio Mairena, but then you will never forgive him.  Can you justify this?<\/strong><\/p>\n

What we cannot forgive is that Tom\u00e1s, at the time of his death, asked for Antonio Mairena and he didn\u2019t appear.  And then, one day on the Radio Sevilla flamenco radio program, Antonio said he was with Tom\u00e1s until the end, which was not true, because Tom\u00e1s called out for him and Antonio Mairena did not appear.  If his sensitivity and his heart problem prevented him from attending the funeral, okay, but he should have appeared at the mass or offered his condolences in these eighteen months since Tom\u00e1s breathed his last breath.<\/p>\n

Tom\u00e1s, being what he was, the direct descendant of Manuel, how is it that he had not made himself a place in the history of flamenco?<\/strong><\/p>\n

He didn\u2019t have it because Antonio, in spite of everything, took it upon himself to cheat Tom\u00e1s, to see that he couldn\u2019t rise up, and because of that Tom\u00e1s did not stand out as he should have.<\/p>\n

And how is it that after so many years in anonymity, Mar\u00eda and Amparo consent to singing on stage?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It happened in a very simple manner, in a festival at the Torres Macarena club (pe\u00f1a), which coincided with the birthday of my husband, [dancer] Pepe R\u00edos, [Ampario speaking].  We appeared on stage to sing after a dance recital by the students from his dance school, and the success was tremendous.  As a result, Jaime del Pozo, a member of the club, suggested the possibility of a recording which he is going to promote.<\/p>\n

Are you in agreement with the events that are being planned for your father\u2019s centennial?<\/strong><\/p>\n

We\u2019re very grateful to Juan de la Plata and the Pe\u00f1a Torres Macarena for the organization of so many events that have been programed, and have already been organized in memory of that genius that was our father. The plaque with which Seville is going to perpetuate the memory of Manuel Torre is wonderful, and it seems to us the appropriate thing to do. Likewise, we thank the artists who took part in the Misa Flamenca at the basilica of the Macarena \u2013 this will mark a transcendental date in the annals of flamenco history.<\/p>\n

If Amparo were to ask something of life, what would she ask for?<\/strong><\/p>\n

That my father be returned home, to have him at my side, at least for one small moment, as the verse says.<\/p>\n

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* (Original Spanish interview by \u00c1ngel Mar\u00edn R\u00fajula, published in the newspaper Nueva Andaluc\u00eda and Jaleo magazine).<\/h6>\n
Imagen superior: hijas y viuda de Manuel Torre tras la muerte de e\u0301ste. Foto: La pena sonora- Juan de la Plata<\/h6>\n

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