{"id":20769,"date":"2020-07-26T12:57:39","date_gmt":"2020-07-26T10:57:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.expoflamenco.com\/archivo\/?p=20769"},"modified":"2020-07-26T12:57:39","modified_gmt":"2020-07-26T10:57:39","slug":"grandpa-and-the-things-flamencos-say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/expoflamenco.com\/archivo\/en\/bordonazo-new\/grandpa-and-the-things-flamencos-say\/","title":{"rendered":"Grandpa and the things flamencos say"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>-Grandpa, one of the things I like the best about flamenco are the things the artists and the aficionados say, their expressions and words of wisdom, which sometimes can be very deep and philosophical, specially considering that, in your days at least, the education of the artists was minimal, generally. For example, in the XIX century, very few flamenco artists knew how to read and write. Don\u2019t you think this is intriguing?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-Certainly, Manolo. Wisdom was a product of the lives they lived, their experiences, their sufferings (for some), life on the streets\u2026 Look, Manolito el de Mar\u00eda used to say that he sang because he remembered the things he had gone through. It\u2019s true. Manolito was extremely poor, and besides being a gypsy (which is something very special in itself), he was a very humble man who had endured many troubles. I know it\u2019s a bit clich\u00e9, but how could possibly this man sing like, say, El Pinto(1)? Pepe was a great cantaor, he was a better artist and his repertoire was much wider than Manolito\u2019s, but their life experiences were very different. Manolito, nephew of Joaqu\u00edn el de la Paula, suffered much, even in death, having died screaming in pain.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-What about T\u00eda Anica la Piri\u00f1aca, why would she say that she could taste blood when she sang her best? <\/strong><strong>That\u2019s profound, grandpa.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-Yes, she said that. Particularly when she sang by seguiriyas in a way that pierced the soul, with that natural voice of her, raw like her blood, thus her famous phrase. She was unaware of how she sang. Cante would come out of her throat like a whisper, without ornaments, without planning. I once heard her sing on stage, and she was imposing, very Andalusian, with her hair in a perfect bun.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-Grandpa, they say that Chac\u00f3n one night was so moved by his idol, Manuel Torres, that he told him \u201cManuel, open my wounds!\u201d What was that all about? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-Look, Chac\u00f3n and Manuel Torres were from the same neighborhood in Jerez, from the same area, and they both were very poor. Even as Torres was nine years younger than Chac\u00f3n, they learned from the same masters and would have shared many experiences in their youth. When Chac\u00f3n heard Torres sing, he would often be moved to tears, reportedly, probably making him remember Mellizo, Frijones, Antonio el Marrurro, Francisco la Perla\u2026 Cantaores that had once touched his soul, as they had touched everyone\u2019s soul. That\u2019s why Chac\u00f3n would ask Torres to \u201copen his wounds\u201d, meaning to sing something from the masters of the old days, to bring back their memories. It\u2019s an expression I had not heard before. See? Now you know almost as much stuff as I do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-Another philosopher was Antonio el Chocolate, right? They say he would dream of seguiriyas, spending whole nights figuring out cantes in his head while he slept. \u201cGood cante hurts, because it has memory, a sad memory\u201d, he said once.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-Antonio would also wonder why we call a comforter \u201ccomforter\u201d and a bed \u201cbed\u201d, while beds were more comfortable tan comforters. Makes you appreciate how odd this gypsy was, although that kind of made sense. He was cultured, you know? He liked many types of music, and history. He could discuss a Roman emperor or astronomy as easily as he could discuss cante. He was a natural genius, no doubt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-Have those natural geniuses been lost forever, grandpa?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-Not at all, Manolo. There are some very bright geniuses in our days, too, because flamencos are very sharp, and some have an amazingly quick mind. Jos\u00e9 el de la Tomasa, for example, has some very good comebacks. Once someone asked him if it was true that he was a \u201ccold\u201d cantaor, and he replied \u201cYes, I\u2019m from Pescanova\u201d(2). Such retort, which may seem easy, would have taken a playwright weeks to come up with, yet Jos\u00e9 improvised on the spot, as if he had prepared it beforehand. It\u2019s in his blood, though, as both his parents were also brilliant: Pies de Plomo and La Tomasa. They were both great cantaores, too, who grew up at Alameda de Hercules, in Seville, surrounded by flamencos.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-\u00bfWhat about Camar\u00f3n?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-Camar\u00f3n was a man of few words, rather shy. Just like Tom\u00e1s Pav\u00f3n, someone like that. People had to be careful talking with Tom\u00e1s (of whom Juan Talega said \u201che\u2019s no big deal\u201d), because he didn\u2019t tolerate pranks, and didn\u2019t like jokes. Same with his brother Arturo. Their sister Pastora, on the other hand, was quite the opposite, having a great sense of humor. When her very good friend and great singer of boleros, Antonio Mach\u00edn, got married, his wife came to Pastora\u2019s house for coffee, as a courtesy visit, and Pastora told her \u201cCan I ask you something, just between you and me? Is it big?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>-Grandpa, you never grow up. I ask you about Camar\u00f3n, and you bring up Mach\u00edn\u2019s anatomy. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-You\u2019re losing your sense of humour, kid.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(1) Jos\u00e9 Torres Garz\u00f3n, Pepe Pinto, was the husband of Pastora Pav\u00f3n and had a successful artistic career.<\/p>\n<p>(2) Pescanova is a well-known Spanish brand of frozen fish.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the things I like the best about flamenco are the things the artists and the aficionados say, their expressions and words of wisdom, which sometimes can be very deep and philosophical, specially considering that, in your days at least, the education of the artists was minimal, generally.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":20767,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[256],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20769","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bordonazo-new"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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