{"id":18951,"date":"2015-10-16T02:44:27","date_gmt":"2015-10-16T00:44:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.expoflamenco.com\/archivo\/?p=18951"},"modified":"2020-04-04T02:40:58","modified_gmt":"2020-04-04T00:40:58","slug":"the-role-of-the-aficionados","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/expoflamenco.com\/archivo\/en\/bordonazo-new\/the-role-of-the-aficionados\/","title":{"rendered":"The role of the aficionados"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The article published last Wednesday, about the future of the pe\u00f1as flamencas, created a lot of debate among our readers, with all sorts of opinions, generally (but not always) supportive of these venues. <strong>Jos\u00e9 Luis Ortiz Nuevo<\/strong>, creator of Seville\u2019s Bienal, suggested that the pe\u00f1as were not all that important, noting that the artists themselves were the real protagonists of flamenco. Indeed, I\u2019ve always stated that the true protagonists of this art have been, are, and will always be, its artists. Incidentally, Seville\u2019s pe\u00f1as flamencas were instrumental in the creation of the Bienal, although these days the pe\u00f1as are barely taken into account any more.<\/p>\n<p>Without denying the importance of the <em>cantaores<\/em>, <em>tocaores<\/em> and <em>bailaores<\/em>, the aficionados are also vital for flamenco. I\u2019m not referring only to those who go to the theaters or to the summer festivals in small towns, but the aficionados who work for flamenco, those who commit themselves, performing various tasks in the pe\u00f1as. Ortiz Nuevo said that there are pe\u00f1as which are backwards, and that is correct, in the same measure that there are artists and aficionados who are backwards too, not to mention the backward critics or flamencologists, without pointing any fingers. There are pe\u00f1as that are nothing more than drinking bars, where people only go to have diner or to play bingo, which only use the name \u201cpe\u00f1a\u201d to avoid taxes. Yet, most of the pe\u00f1as are serious establishments, struggling to pay their rent, not to mention to hire artists, something that is sometimes impossible.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Flamenco aficionados have judgement, get immersed in knowledge, debate and are active<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Going back to the words of Ortiz Nuevo, highlighting the artists above all, I believe that the role of the aficionado is worth of being studied and appreciated. I\u2019m unaware if the same happens with other musical genres, but the flamenco aficionado is totally committed and engaged, working for flamenco and contributing financially to it. Do you know how much money passes through the pe\u00f1as of Andalusia in one year? A lot, about a million euros or so, and it\u2019s not all from public subsidies. Some pe\u00f1as organize raffles and sell lottery to be able to afford hiring artists. The rest comes from membership fees, which, although usually inexpensive, provide a good source of income, since pe\u00f1as typically have about a hundred members. Thus, it\u2019s only fair to highlight the work of the aficionados inside and outside the pe\u00f1as, those who work for flamenco, those who buy flamenco books and recordings, those who write in magazines or blogs, and those who buy tickets for the summer festivals or for the Bienal events. Moreover, flamenco aficionados have judgement, get immersed in knowledge, debate and are active, as we can see on a daily basis in Seville and in all provinces of Andalusia. Not forgetting other communities in Spain where flamenco is appreciated as much as it is in Andalusia, such as Extremadura or Catalonia where, by the way, there are great (and very old) pe\u00f1as flamencas.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, going back to the topic of public subsidies, it must be made clear that this public help doesn\u2019t come out of the pocket of the authorities, that is, of the politicians, but rather from budgets meant to promote culture. Pe\u00f1as deserve to receive these subsidies as much as any other cultural entity of Andalusia. Whether or not these subsidies limit the independence of the pe\u00f1as is another matter. Sometimes we\u2019ve seen renowned politicians asking for votes in pe\u00f1as, promising support. Yet, in the end, at the time of voting everyone chooses whomever they think fit, as people from all sorts of different ideologies coexist in the pe\u00f1as, in total harmony.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Flamenco aficionados have judgement, get immersed in knowledge, debate and are active. 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